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Batman

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PostSubject: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 2:46 pm

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/458725

Holy Batcave!!! Did they buy the auto-crazed defense? This will fire up the locals and likely pizz of the police. Maybe the Civil Suit will even up the score.
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Spidubic

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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 3:25 pm

His lawyer claimed he could not be held responsible for his actions because of a head injury that legally rendered him a ``non-insane automaton."

Going to have to remember that excuse. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 4:40 pm

I don't think a civil suit will follow if Ryan VandenBussche was found innocent, even though it was placed BEFORE his initial trial. The whole situation is pretty d*mn murky if you ask me. If the O.P.P. is serious, they'll push for an appeal. I think that he was set-up, but that's just my view of things.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 5:11 pm

shagz wrote:
I think that he was set-up, but that's just my view of things.

Do you think?

Odd that there are only 2 tasers (we're told) available to Norfolk OPP, and at least one of them was on site at the Turkey Point Hotel that night!!!

And perhaps someone can explain the 'superhuman' capacities of this person that he could be tasered twice and still be a threat - to the extent that he then had to be pepper sprayed while he was lying on the ground?
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 5:15 pm

There is going to be a zillion posts to this verdict. Fact of the matter is ,like it or not he was found not guilty. End of story . Very good defence or lousy prosecution. If the glove don't fit you must aquit .
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 5:17 pm

wow tazered 3 times and he isn't dead?? He must not be of this world, I mean because it seems that tazers kill people and they should be removed from service **eye roll**
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PostSubject: So now what???   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 6:02 pm

Fine, Ryan is not responsible. Ok.

So the wife and I are out at the local pub and I bumb into someone who is Ryan's cousin. We have words, next thing I know Ryan is kicking the crap out of me. Of course, he is not responsible so I should just take it, spend months in rehab and hope I can work again.

Come on...the defense was fine, if it only applies to the specific incident but now every football, hockey, rugby player and wrestler can claim the VDB defense and call it even.

Do you feel safer because of this ruling?

Do you think your coming of age sons and daughters are safer on their nights out now?

Before you answer, put your face on the other end of his knuckles.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeFri Jul 11, 2008 6:41 pm

The officer involved is one of the worst cops in all of ontario, he is known for being power hungry and once tried it with me as well. I to beat him in court and the lies and trash he told in court just amazed me and the judge seen right through him and tossed my charges out. I have no doubt this power hungry maniac of a cop got caught in his own web of lies once again and I have no doubt this cop was not the good little cop he said he was before Ryan smacked him up side the head.

I feel safer knowing this ego maniac power trippin cop got put in his place. I do not feel the same way about all other cops because for the most part they just do their job and are respectful but this cop right here should be kicked off the force and deported back to his country.

As for feelin safe around Ryan, yes I do because I know he doesnt kick the crap out of you for no reason and if you were beating on my family member or friend id smack ya to.
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Batman

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PostSubject: More to come   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 12:36 am

Tonight while at the mall I signed a petition that was asking the Crown to appeal the dismissal. So perhaps not so quick to raise the cup for Ryan. And there is still that nagging 10 Million Dollar law suit to defend.

Blaming the cop is standard defense procedure and I doubt that all of the police in attendance were conspiring against VDB.

As far as your implication to "smack" me in a similar situation, I suggest you pull your panties back up lady.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 10:35 am

I wish people would just take responsibility for their actions.
This way of dealing with life tends to be passed down to the next generation in a family. I wonder what the headlines will be in another 15 years or so when the children are in the bar scene?
A sad tribute to our justice system.

You should check out this display of our hockey hero and the posted comments. It says alot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Nq0Jx02rk
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 7:52 pm

I know first hand of 2 incidents with the officer that was involved. In both cases he was VERY unprofessional. In the second of the 2 he was rude and acted very forceful when there was no need for it. I personally feel that he (the officer) was looking for a million $$$ payday. I don't know RVB and do not know the officer etiher other than the 2 accounts mentioned. If the 2 accounts mentioned above are any indication of how he preforms I personally feel he is in the wrong line of work.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 8:57 pm

That's an amazing defense...hahahahaahha WOW!

That actually worked.....wow.....
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 10:08 pm

Open season on police officers now?

Seriously, how can anyone buy that defense?
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 11:27 pm

Money buys you freedom don't you know that??
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSun Jul 13, 2008 1:55 pm

Batman wrote:
Tonight while at the mall I signed a petition that was asking the Crown to appeal the dismissal. So perhaps not so quick to raise the cup for Ryan.

I'd like to know more about this petition.
Which Mall and where in the Mall? At a store -- at the lottery booth -- just someone standing in the Mall holding a clipboard asking for signatures? Any idea who was behind the petition? Please post additional information.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSun Jul 13, 2008 7:09 pm

"Tonight while at the mall I signed a petition that was asking the Crown to appeal the dismissal. So perhaps not so quick to raise the cup for Ryan."

"Any idea who was behind the petition?"

The case has been dismissed. Get over it and move on.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSun Jul 13, 2008 9:03 pm

Batman wrote:
Tonight while at the mall I signed a petition that was asking the Crown to appeal the dismissal.

Where do I go to view this petition? I don't know if I'd sign it but I'd sure like to read it.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeSun Jul 13, 2008 11:24 pm

Perhaps the Judge figured he'd done his time by the taser shots and the pepper spray..... like if you hang a man and the rope breaks, he's a free man.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2008 11:04 am

Unbelievable!!! What was the judge smoking on this case? To borrow a line from a famous court case .... "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit". That being said, I truly hope that the civil suit that the officer has filed against VandenBussche is successful.
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2008 4:12 pm

"Unbelievable!!! What was the judge smoking on this case? To borrow a line from a famous court case .... "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit". That being said, I truly hope that the civil suit that the officer has filed against VandenBussche is successful."

The tone that the above statement and others that do not respect the verdict of the judge (not a jury as in the OJ case) is like the the old west Get the torches and a rope we'll get justice. That is unbelievable!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2008 4:46 pm

It is the way he got off I think that people find hard to fathom. He gets a bump on the head which causes a concussion. He then goes on a rampage that ends with an officer having his nose and orbital bone broke. Three taser shots and two pepper spray later he is subdued. They say the concussion made him unaware of what was doing thus he is not to blame and gets off. Seems like a poor excuse.

I would also worry that if one bump to his noggin does this then what if it happens again? What if it is some innocent bystander that feels his wrath? Should he not have to do something to make sure this does not happen again?
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2008 6:00 pm

If he is so unpredictable and fragile and susceptible to these "black outs" should he be DRIVING??
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2008 8:54 pm

"If he is so unpredictable and fragile and susceptible to these "black outs" should he be DRIVING??"

of course he should, as I'm sure these blackouts only occur when a fight breaks out Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2008 9:35 pm

aguyinbrantford wrote:
"If he is so unpredictable and fragile and susceptible to these "black outs" should he be DRIVING??"

of course he should, as I'm sure these blackouts only occur when a fight breaks out Rolling Eyes

or should he be drinking, or allowed into an establishment that serves alcohol?

given that this man, apparently, is not responsible for his actions, he should be very closely monitored in every aspect of his life . . .
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PostSubject: Re: VandenBussche charges dismissed   VandenBussche charges dismissed Icon_minitimeMon Jul 14, 2008 9:57 pm

Well,what if, when he is driving, someone cuts him off and he slips into a road rage response? What if he gets angry and blacks out? What if I am coming the other way?

What if he doesn't know what he's doing and hits ME?? Will that too be excused because he has a head injury? Maybe then I too will have a head injury as well!? And my grandkids in the back seat! And we will ALL have head injuries so NONE of us will be responsible for anything for the rest of our lives! Nonsense!
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