smoking ban

I see where the city of Woodstock has passed a smoking ban starting September 1st. No more smoking near any public facility, but I wonder if it will be enforced. As a non smoker I don't like walking through the smell to get to a store or business. Smokers have the right to smoke and non-smokers have the right to clean air, so why can't people smoking show a little more respect.

I, too, dislike walking through the contaminated air space. At the entrance to malls or places where the smokers congregate, I hold my breath until inside. My parents were both heavy smokers and the carcinigons in the cigarettes infected my mother's system and she died of cancer. There's no way I will ever put a cigarette to my lips. I've never even tried smoking. I would even like to suggest to mall managements that the walkway be hosed down too.

perhaps it is time that non smokers demand the mall management to put a stop to people smoking outside the doors. I wonder if enough of us protested and refused to go in the mall they might listen and do something.

Smoke doesnt linger outside, it goes up into the air and blows away with the wind just as the smoke that comes out our car exhausts, I dont really see a problem here other than the problem was created by pushing people outside and not allowing bar owners and resturant owners and mall owners to build smoke rooms.

I have no problem with businesses having smoking rooms and I think it should be allowed. As long as non-smokers are not subject to the smoke, and yes smoke does linger. I remember the days going into restaurants and bars with smoke hanging so thick you could not see across the room. No it does not linger like that outside but in the overhang at the rear of the simcoe town center it does.

I used to think Smoking Rooms were a good idea and in some locations, such as Nursing Homes, they should be allowed. A nursing home is a smoker's home and I feel it is absolutely wrong to say to them that they have to go outside to smoke. Not always easy, especially if wheel chair bound.
All that being said, when a smoker leaves a smoking room, the smell lingers on their body/clothes and is carried around. I dislike being served by somone who has been smoking. (Hairdresser, massage therapist, wait staff etc.)
Smoking is a very real health hazzard and I do wish the younger generations will learn from the older ones and NOT start because it is very hard to stop. The message is getting out there but there are still people who take risks.

My common-law wife smokes....she respects me and hangs her head out the bedroom window of our apt so it doesn't smell in here... I don't like it when she smokes when we drive places but I deal with it.....there are worse smells in the world but I don't see it as being very harmful in very small amounts of second hand smoke in a well ventilated area like that....

Many a person has died from cancer because their partner smokes second hand smoke is deadly

there isn't too much stuff that doesn't cause cancer

wickens wrote:

Many a person has died from cancer because their partner smokes second hand smoke is deadly

Are you sure they arent dieing from second hand car smoke and smoke stacks?


Toronto



Personally I dont think there is much proof to the fact that a smokers partner gets cancer from the cigs, cancer is caused by many things not just cigs, it just so happens that the health people of this country use cigs as a target and a way to collect huge amounts of money to fight diseases. Every single person in Canada who gets cancer is prolly chalked up as cig smoke victim regardless of the facts.

I really can never get over the fact that people who drive vehicles and produce second hand smoke and pollution every single day have the gull to call out a smoker, if you target one then for me you must target everyone.

Maybe one day we will live in a pollution free world but I doubt that will happen. In the meanwhile all I am asking is that if you smoke do it so it doesn't offend anyone else. Smoke till it kills you but don't let it affect anyone else

Hey Skully. Why not list all the chemicals in cigarette smoke side by side with all the chemicals coming from a car exhaust. Lets truly find out which is worse.

When it comes to cigarette smoking, I can speak only from my own experiences and observations >>

I started smoking when I was 20 and smoked for 20 years after that. During that time when I smoked, I hacked and carried on. I was continually battling lung infections, including pneumonia, and was developing early stage COPD.

I finally had enough and quit 11 years ago. My respiratory infections and issues diminished. Since then, I sleep better, smell better, feel better, and enjoy overall better health. I am older but feel the best now, than at any other time in my life except when I was a kid.

Were my earlier health issues a result of my smoking? The evidence is circumstantial, but I believe strongly that they were.

Skully, no one denies that pollution and all the other fallout of modern man causes health problems. But, please, don't let smoking off the hook. I know a woman, I worked with her years ago, who smoked three packs a day. She maintained until the day she died before her time of lung cancer a few years ago, that cigarettes didn't cause cancer. Maybe, she was right - but I'd rather err on the side of caution . . .

I certainly do not let smoking off the hook, I think it is as dangerous as anything out there but the fact remains that nearly everything you put in your body can kill you or cause harm or sicknesses as you describe. Some people are born with asthma and can be allergic to many different things likes cats, peanuts etc etc.

To say smokgin is being let off the hook is a rather silly thing to say considering it is the one and only thing being attacked in this manner out of any product in the entire world but yet people like you continue to be hyprocritical when it comes to pollution and driving arouind in your smoke machines eveyr single day and then have the nerve to turn around and try to put in place new laws to stop people from smoking a cigarette OUTDOORS. Smoking has been banned indoors, advertisement has been banned, strict policies all across the board, banned in cars and some say soon in the house so for heavens sake give it a damn rest already and leave smokers alone and give them the little piece of freedom left which is having a smoke outside where it harms absolutely NO ONE.

I understand smoking is an easy target and to you it may not be a neccessity or something you like but that doesnt give you the right to dictate other peoples feelings and freedoms on it and then totally ignore the wrong doings you do every single day with a b ig smile on your face.

To say people with this thought process get me po'd is an understatement, if driving cars everyday and producing smoke outside is fine then so is smoking, END OF STORY

Spidubic wrote:

Hey Skully. Why not list all the chemicals in cigarette smoke side by side with all the chemicals coming from a car exhaust. Lets truly find out which is worse.

Why ask me, just do it yourself and also include how many smokers in this world there is to how many vehicles are on the road every single day. You know I could stand downtown simcoe all day long and maybe just once if im lucky will I encounter a smoker that is blowing smoke in my face but in that same day standing on that sidewalk I would have roughly 1000 or more vehicles driving right by me with their exhaust fumes blowing right in my face.

But who cares, get that dfamn smoker!

Skully, how can you label someone you don't know as hypocritical?

You don't know what my lifestyle is - where I live, what (if anything) I drive, how I get around, where (or if) I work.

For your information, I do support the tobacco farmers and their quest for a buyout. I do believe that North Americans are being treated like one gigantic lab experiment when it comes to pollution and GMO's.

But if you ever happen to wonder why some people have trouble with your positions on certain matters, you'd be well advised to be mindful of the labels you apply to others. Your credibility rides on it.

Car Exhaust:

Carbon Monoxide
Nitrogen dioxide
Sulphur dioxide
Suspended particles including PM-10, particles less than 10 microns in size.
Benzene
Formaldehyde
Polycyclic hydrocarbons

Cigarette:

Tar
Arsenic
Benzene
Cadmium
Formaldehyde
Polonium-210
Chromium
1,3-Butadiene
Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons
Nitrosamines
Acrolein

Note I have only included 11 of the 4000 chemicals in cigarettes. If you want more info do a search. Easy enough to find.

Cigarette smoke is bad, that is proven. Emissions from automobiles is bad, that is proven. Every year emissions are tweaked and improved to make them run cleaner. What do tobacco companies do to make cigarettes cleaner?

And for the record I walk wherever possible. The car I drive gets fantastic gas mileage. I don't smoke. I drink tap water not bottled. We use as little hydro as possible. If I could do it I would get off the grind and go totally green.

(By Carl Orth | The Suncoast News
Published: June 10, 2008

DADE CITY -- County commissioners are continuing to research hiring only nonsmokers in the future and considering a program to help current workers kick the tobacco habit.
Smokers tend to use medical benefits 50 percent more often, Lisa Sloan told commissioners this morning. Sloan is a tobacco prevention specialist with the Pasco County Health Department.
The Pasco and Pinellas sheriff's offices both hire only nonsmokers, Sloan emphasized. Pasco County is above average on the number of smokers on the public payroll, Sloan told the County Commission on Tuesday.
Sloan was providing an update on the continuing study of a possible ban on hiring smokers for county government jobs.
The typical smoker might spend $2,000 a year on cigarettes alone, plus pay higher insurance premiums and suffer other "ripple effects" such as cars with cigarette odor having lower trade-in value, Sloan said in outlining more reasons to give up smoking.)
http://suncoastpasco.tbo.com/content/2008/jun/10/pasco-county-continues-research-smoke-free-work-fo/
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jun/02/na-thank-you-for-not-smoking/

The long arm of Dalton McGuinty doesn't extend as far as Dade City, does it?

Inanimate Carbon Rod wrote:

The long arm of Dalton McGuinty doesn't extend as far as Dade City, does it?

They are worse on smoking in the US than we are.The cost of health insurance for smokers is high

yeah, some American friends were visiting a couple years ago, and remarked on how many smokers there are here

Just think going for a job and getting turn down if you smoke

You can still smoke in buildings in most states in the US and as far as someone from the US asking why there is so much smokers here, I would ask which state were they from and do they live on the top of a mountain by themselfs? I took a trip to see my sister in North Carolina in Feb and all along the way I seen way more smokers there than here, I seen much more relaxed laws as i was able to smoke inside some places, I was able to purchase cigs in any store without them hidden, I was able to smoke in my own car and if I was to tell someone in the States on the side of the road to butt out right now SIR, I would of most likely got an azz wooping or a bullet in my forhead. I only get one comment from Americans towards us when we go there, why are you guys such hyprocritial wussies who never seem to mind your own business.

As for calling you a hyprocrite, you are one because you tell me I kill people because I smoke, you tell me I shouldnt do this and shouldnt do that but you ignore all the wrong doing you do and smoke you produce every single day just because it is conivent to you and your habit, so its okay.

wickens wrote:

(By Carl Orth | The Suncoast News
Published: June 10, 2008

The typical smoker might spend $2,000 a year on cigarettes alone, plus pay higher insurance premiums and suffer other "ripple effects" such as cars with cigarette odor having lower trade-in value, Sloan said in outlining more reasons to give up smoking.)

I wonder will they only hire people that do not pass gass? I mean to hire a person who will most likely pass gass atleast a few times a day after eating a box of donuts while driving in those cars might eventually stink up that car and lower the value.

Spidubic wrote:

Car Exhaust:

Carbon Monoxide
Nitrogen dioxide
Sulphur dioxide
Suspended particles including PM-10, particles less than 10 microns in size.
Benzene
Formaldehyde
Polycyclic hydrocarbons

Cigarette:

Tar
Arsenic
Benzene
Cadmium
Formaldehyde
Polonium-210
Chromium
1,3-Butadiene
Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons
Nitrosamines
Acrolein

Note I have only included 11 of the 4000 chemicals in cigarettes. If you want more info do a search. Easy enough to find.

Cigarette smoke is bad, that is proven. Emissions from automobiles is bad, that is proven. Every year emissions are tweaked and improved to make them run cleaner. What do tobacco companies do to make cigarettes cleaner?

And for the record I walk wherever possible. The car I drive gets fantastic gas mileage. I don't smoke. I drink tap water not bottled. We use as little hydro as possible. If I could do it I would get off the grind and go totally green.

Ride a horse or buy a bike, you can do it, you jusst dont want to because your addicted